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The Imperial Appetite
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Submitted by Frankly Speaking, Feb 9, 2008 22:19

self-delusion on both an individual and collective basis is crucial for the human psyche. Russians remain proud of the might of the Soviet empire, which was as evil and corrupt as anything imaginable. the japanese refused to surrender after the first atomic bomb and many generals argued vehemently to not surrender after the second bomb. how many of their citizens were they willing to sacrifice to their superiority complex? you are writing from germany with such smug condescension, but how many times did that country try to conquer much of the world in the past 100 years? of course the french are well-known for their cultural modesty... my point is that americans are no worse than people in other countries. at least we admit our mistakes. how many americans defend vietnam? has the history of slavery been swept from view? how many countries scrupulously investigate their own misdeeds to the degree that america does? the massacres in Iraq, in vietnam, cambodia, etc... to this day the japanese won't apologize for subjugating women into sexual slavery in WW2. the "comfort women." what a euphemism! do the chinese reconcile with their own history? How many did Mao massacre? some estimate 100 million... how about stalin? Have russians reconciled his genocide of tens of millions of Ukrainians? don't mistake this for a defense of america's sins. but after all, we are about to elect a black man or a woman for president. do we have racism and sexism? of course. are we honest about it? yes, it must not be so bad if we can choose them to lead our country. We have a free and open society, there is nothing covert about our so-called imperialism. everyone with half an education knows about it so how can it be covert? besides, our imperialism is largely cultural. if we were true imperialists in the historical sense we'd simply take control of the saudi arabia, kuwait, iran, iraq etc... as the british did in the 19th century over much of the world. such things are not possible anymore, and i'm sure that's good in some ways, but if you were realistic you'd also realize that if we did do that, most of the people in those countries would enjoy a much higher standard of living. there'd be a middle class and a diverse economy and civil rights. no one wants to be ruled over by foreigners and i'm not suggesting they'd be better off in some absolute sense, but there would be benefits to good government (which they don't have) and the equality and rule of law that would come with American administration. (are you familiar with how women are treated in many of these countries?) no country/culture is perfect. certainly not america's, but we have self-correcting and reconciling mechanisms built into our culture. that is both why and how "We the people..." which started out as property owning white men, gradually grew to enfranchise women and African Americans. because the mechanisms for universal franchise and legal rights were put in place from the beginning.


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The Puritan rhetoric (our City on rhe Hill syndrome) which has kept median Americans from realizing how imperialistic we've covertly... [MORE]

Patrick D.Hazard

Feb 8, 2008 12:03

self-delusion on both an individual and collective basis is crucial for the human psyche. Russians remain proud of the might...

Frankly Speaking

Feb 9, 2008 22:19

The imperial appetite of certain countries has never ended, indeed if anything it has grown. What has changed are the... [MORE]

Siddhartha S.Bhadrakumar

Feb 10, 2008 23:40

I wonder if Mr. Hazard would have the courage to spout the same if America hadn't saved him and his... [MORE]

Glenn Smith

Feb 12, 2008 18:15

I've just now had a chance to read "Frankly Speaking".It is a very thoughtful response for which I am grateful.... [MORE]

Patrick D.Hazard

Feb 13, 2008 10:26

Don't be so quick to assume America is about to elect either a woman or an African American man as... [MORE]

BklynGal305

Feb 14, 2008 17:38

Dear Mr.Smith: I came not to bury American Exceptionalism but to raise it:-- from Ideals to Realities. I used to... [MORE]

Patrick D.Hazard

Feb 21, 2008 03:00

Hey Sidd, what have you been smoking? Do you really think China is the victim of imperialism rather than the... [MORE]

ricardo maxwell

Feb 21, 2008 08:51

Upon reading Patrick Hazrads article I kept looking for substance, concrete unambiguous facts that would stand alone without the distraction... [MORE]

Michael Rodriguez

Mar 4, 2008 14:05

So, the burden of the intelligentsia is to show the poor masses the errors of their ways and to enlighten... [MORE]

Paul McCord

Mar 10, 2008 10:30

I'm not sure exactly what the poster said, but I am sure he said everything he knew about the subject. BTW... [MORE]

gxb

Mar 10, 2008 10:38

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Gene Guffey

Mar 15, 2008 10:58

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SD Goh

Feb 8, 2008 10:10

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D

Feb 8, 2008 15:03

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D

Feb 8, 2008 09:24

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Billy Smith

Feb 12, 2008 11:29

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John McCarthy

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Shalom Freedman

Feb 8, 2008 02:11

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C

Feb 9, 2008 21:19

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Patrizia von Lutzow-Vorbeck

Mar 16, 2008 16:46

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