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Canton Has Yet To Welcome Some of Football's Best

Submitted by Tom Geraghty, Feb 3, 2008 03:16

Mr. Barra is mistaken in his comparison of Bob Griese and John Brodie. Using the adjusted yards per pass (relative to league average) metric, which Mr. Barra himself has argued is the single statistic most highly correlated with winning in pro football, Griese is in the top 20 QBs of all time (close to Dan Fouts and better than Tom Brady), while Brodie is about 80th (in between Brian Sipe and Milt Plum). Brodie was wildly inconsistent; he mixed in some pretty bad seasons with the good ones that Barra indicates. Griese was far more consistently good. Plus, as a previous commenter indicated, Griese was an 8-time pro-bowler; Brodie made it only twice.

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Mr. Barra is mistaken in his comparison of Bob Griese and John Brodie. Using the adjusted yards per pass (relative...

Tom Geraghty

Feb 3, 2008 03:16

Dear Mr. Barra . . . The purpose of this letter is to make you aware of a grassroots fan effort... [MORE]

L. Murphy

Feb 2, 2008 21:20

Yeah, who is that??? Well, he AVERAGED over 14 tackles PER game for his entire 10 year career. Getting 14 tackles... [MORE]

Mark B

Feb 2, 2008 19:32

I think that the writer is forgetting that Csonka also played in the WIFL for two seasons for the Memphis... [MORE]

craig p

Feb 2, 2008 08:59

You forgot to mention that Griese did go to eight Pro Bowls, that he won NFL MVP awards in two... [MORE]

Rob H

Feb 1, 2008 17:37

Allen Barra perpetuates one of the most serious shortcomings of the present "system" for selecting Hall of Fame inductees: the... [MORE]

Charles McLain, Boston MA

Feb 1, 2008 14:03

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