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Romney Speech Is Readied To Explain His Faith to Public

Submitted by Joe Thompson, Nov 16, 2007 14:32

"Basic Values" download

What is it: A primer of traditional American values that can be used for comparison with current Mormon values

Who wrote it: David Starr Jordan, founding president of Stanford University

Why and When was it written: Up until 1900, the most important course in the college curriculum was moral philosophy, taught usually by the college president and required of all senior students. Dr. Jordan's book, published in 1900, represents the finest of that tradition.

Where do I get it: Go to www.thestrengthofbeingclean.com

How do I use it: Click, download, read, ponder, implement, enjoy, share. If fully loaded, provides the opportunity for optimal use of "user based" software and hardware.

Examples of axioms and aphorisms in book:

"To breathe the aroma of love, in pure selfishness, without an atom of altruistic responsibility is the motive of flirtation. To touch a woman's hand in wantonness may be to poison her life and yours. The strongest forces in human life are not subjects for idle play. The real heart and soul of a man are measured by the truth he show to woman. A man's ideal of womanhood is fixed by the woman he seeks. By a man's ideal of womanhood we may know the degree of his manhood."

"In the quest for happiness, effectiveness rather than pleasure must be the real object of pursuit."

"Any fool may be innocent. It takes a wise man to be virtuous."

"The basis of intemperance is the effort to secure through drugs the feeling of happiness when happiness does not exist. Men destroy their nervous systems for the tingling pleasures they feel as its structures are torn apart."

"As a drop of water is of the nature of the sea, so in its degree is the effect of alcohol, opium, tobacco, cocaine, kola, tea or coffee .. They give a feeling of pleasure or rest, when rest or pleasure does not exist...(they) enable one to borrow from his future store of force for present purposes, and none of these make any provision for paying back the loan."

Summary of message: There are basic laws which govern the pursuit of happiness. It does not matter whether or not there is a religious connotation of "sin" or social taboo related to these laws. Breaking these laws brings misery and weakness, obeying them brings the possibility and capacity for happiness and the strength to achieve it.

Application today: "My message is an old one. If by some chance part of it is true, this truth is as old as life itself. And if it is true, it is a message that needs to be repeated many times to each generation of men." David Starr Jordan


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Two of the above reflections on Mormonism are so full of errors that I have to wonder what the various... [MORE]

Brian Davis

Dec 6, 2007 02:13

"Basic Values" download What is it: A primer of traditional American values that can be used for comparison with current Mormon...

Joe Thompson

Nov 16, 2007 14:32

The offending comment was made by Roberta McCain, not Roberta Romney... [MORE]

hilda

Nov 12, 2007 19:43

I think you might have made a mistake in your attributing the quote of McCain's mother to Romney's mother. Roberta... [MORE]

Cooper

Nov 12, 2007 18:47

You meant to say Roberta McCain. Nice catch, editor. [MORE]

Kent

Nov 12, 2007 18:16

Romney can get a speech ready all he wants but how in this world ( or any other, for that... [MORE]

Smith

Nov 12, 2007 14:43

Dear Editor- There is an error in the article regarding Mitt Romney's Speech. The article states that "Roberta Romney" made... [MORE]

Kira

Nov 12, 2007 13:18

Everyone has good reason to be skeptical of Romney if they know anything about Mormonism; it cannot be equated with... [MORE]

Patricia Brown

Nov 12, 2007 13:04

I was just wondering how somone could have so much hate to a people! They have never sought out to... [MORE]

Jason

Dec 7, 2007 14:59

mormonism does not appear to be a problem for him given that the other article I read today out from... [MORE]

Galt

Nov 12, 2007 09:31

it's not even — it's not a subject," Roberta Romney told Chris Matthews on MSNBC. You probably meant Roberta McCain. [MORE]

EG

Nov 12, 2007 08:14

"As far as the Salt Lake City thing, he's a Mormon, and the Mormons of Salt Lake City had caused... [MORE]

Brian

Nov 12, 2007 07:45

I personally think the speech would be a mistake.Romney has already proven his capabilities of leadership and integrity.Judge the man... [MORE]

Raymond Wiland

Nov 12, 2007 06:29

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