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Student Backlash Brews Against Untimed Tests

Submitted by mary b., Aug 17, 2007 04:10

Research has shown multiple times that the use of extra time is not valuable to the student who does not need it. Normal Learning students are not able to raise their scores in the way the LD student can under the same circumstances. Normal Learning kids and parents are just kidding themselves if they think the time will help them, because it will not. The schools should be aware of this, the research has been steadily confirming the same thing for over twenty years.

The following is one of many studies, quoted from Journal of Rehab:

Runyan (1991) examined the effect of extra time on reading comprehension scores for university students with and without identified learning disabilities. Studying 15 students identified as SLD and 15 normally achieving students, Runyan found "a significant difference between scores obtained by students with learning disabilities and by normally achieving students under timed conditions and found that there were no significant differences in test performance between students with learning disabilities and normally achieving university students when students with learning disabilities are provided extra time" (p. 104).


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The dyslexic kids who get into Ivy League Schools usually don't get in because they are getting more time for... [MORE]

kim Houser

Oct 3, 2007 23:06

I am working with an MD who is dyslexic, Garth Vaz @ www.gvazmd.com, to advocate for untimed tests. Dr. Vaz... [MORE]

Leslie N

Feb 8, 2008 10:50

My son was an LD student and also was a D-F student until beginning his junior year of high school... [MORE]

Bill

Sep 3, 2007 22:27

Sir, It is people like you who make comments like this that really sets the fairness scale of children and adults... [MORE]

Christine Graffer

Jan 3, 2008 12:04

Wow Christine!! You took the words right out of my mouth. I have the exact same situation where my oldest... [MORE]

Pamela

Feb 27, 2008 09:51

There should be no time limit on any test unless time and pressure are part of what is being evaluated;... [MORE]

Ken O'Connor

Aug 24, 2007 23:15

Sure, at first blush it doesn't seem fair... But, I'm sure if the author thought about it, she wouldn't wan't... [MORE]

Maria

Aug 20, 2007 07:10

things are going to be harere this year. I have received a few of these articles this summer through professional... [MORE]

syd

Aug 17, 2007 21:49

The percentages at many of these New York private schools are approaching 25%. Miss Paxton pointed out that half the... [MORE]

Karen

Aug 18, 2007 00:18

25% seems a rather high percentage, and makes me wonder if the people asking "who gets extra time" are actually... [MORE]

Gretchen

Aug 22, 2007 10:56

Miss Paxton obviously is not aware that learning disabilities are not an indicator of lower intelligence. Just because one student... [MORE]

Christine

Aug 17, 2007 19:19

The article doesn't mention intelligence in relation to learning disabilities, but what is the factor in rating intelligence if it... [MORE]

Jill Richardson

Aug 18, 2007 00:35

When a student with a learning disability is given the accommodation of extra time for test taking, this is simply... [MORE]

NANCY SIMONETTI

Oct 3, 2007 16:40

This student shows a total lack of understanding regarding disabilities. The reason why students with disabilities can finally compete for... [MORE]

Betsy Smith

Aug 17, 2007 19:09

I know the student, and she is going to an Ivy League school (haven gotten there entirely on her own... [MORE]

close friend

Aug 18, 2007 13:03

As a High School special education teacher I was shocked to read this article. For several years, I have had... [MORE]

Beth

Aug 17, 2007 17:20

A a specialist in learning disorders, I too am greatly disappointed by the ignorant comments in this article. By... [MORE]

jan kerr

Aug 20, 2007 22:24

I am sorry that Miss Paxton feels that the situation is unfair, but I presume she is uninformed. As someone... [MORE]

Doreen Engel

Aug 17, 2007 10:02

Research has shown multiple times that the use of extra time is not valuable to the student who does not...

mary b.

Aug 17, 2007 04:10

Gentlemen: Accomodations for the SAT and ACT are given for verified learning disabilities for which the student has already received accomodations... [MORE]

Pat O'Brien

Aug 17, 2007 02:59

Barbara questioned the idea of overdiagnosing. I'm sure that in some cases this is true. Since you asked the question... [MORE]

Linda

Aug 17, 2007 01:27

Linda's statement that "It's the attitude. If it isn't a problem for me why should it be a problem for... [MORE]

Barbara Wilson

Aug 16, 2007 21:26

Because LDs have a genetic component, as does ADHD and certain other exceptionalities, they can run in families. In my family,... [MORE]

Gretchen

Aug 22, 2007 11:13

The first remark that really is most inaccurate is said almost at the beginning of this article...in that if a... [MORE]

julie

Aug 16, 2007 20:49

extra time should be eliminated. students with extra time and learning disabilities at Ivy League schools should be expelled, and... [MORE]

angry father

Aug 16, 2007 22:25

The presence of a learning disability in a student does not mean that the student is not a "smart person."... [MORE]

Lee

Aug 17, 2007 17:08

It is too bad that you don't understand that to have a specific learning disability a student must have at... [MORE]

LeeAnn

Aug 18, 2007 10:14

LeeAnn, do you honestly think that every student with extra time has a legitimate learning disability? The 3-4% record is... [MORE]

Barbara Wilson

Aug 18, 2007 13:16

One must, as others have commented, have at least an average IQ to be LD. There are people who are LD... [MORE]

Gretchen

Aug 22, 2007 11:27

As a dyslexia therapist in a public school and the parent of three children with ADHD and Dyslexia, one also... [MORE]

Linda Neal

Aug 16, 2007 14:48

Ms Neal, that's quite an assumption you are making. Miss Paxton might have a learning disability and choose not to... [MORE]

Jill Richardson

Aug 16, 2007 21:09

I totally agree with Linda Neal in that everyone should have untimed tests. If the research shows that there is... [MORE]

Carreme

Aug 17, 2007 11:08

Please try to understand that the problem that dyslexic people have is how they process information. Having extra time just... [MORE]

Christine Graffer

Jan 3, 2008 12:23

I wish when I took the SAT test I had to opertoonty to have a comdtion I tooking in the... [MORE]

Kurt

Aug 16, 2007 11:03

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